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== Überblick==
== Überblick==


:''[[Ellen Tigh]] is [[resurrection (RDM)|resurrected]], and she knows all the answers. [[Samuel Anders]]' condition releases a flood of visions and crucial memories that help the [[Final Five]] in the [[The Fleet (RDM)|Fleet]] understand their involvement in the great scheme of things.''
:''[[Ellen Tigh]] wird [[Auferstehung|wiedergeboren]] und kennt nun alle Antworten. [[Samuel Anders]] Zustand verschafft ihm eine Welle an Visionen und kurzen Erinnerungen, die den anderen der [[Letzten Fünf]] in der [[Die Flotte (RDM)|Flotte]] die Zusammenhänge ihres Daseins zu verstehen verhilft.''


== Summary ==
== Zusammenfassung==


===Teaser===
===Eröffnungsszene===


* A unique sequence begins this episode, which summarizes in greater detail the origin of the [[Cylons (RDM)|Cylons]]. The episode begins with the phrase "[[Pythia|This has happened before and will happen again]]" as a vista of the decimated [[Earth (RDM)|Earth]] appears, now known not only as the home of the [[Thirteenth Tribe (RDM)|Thirteenth Tribe]] but as an all-Cylon colony.
* Diese Episode beginnt mit einer einzigartigen Sequenz, die die Herkunft der [[Zylonen (RDM)|Zylonen]] näher erklärt. Die Episode beginnt einer Phrase: "[[Pythia|All dies ist schon mal geschehen. Und all dies geschieht irgendwann wieder]]" dann sieht man eine Küste der zerstörten [[Erde (RDM)|Erde]], von der man inzwischen weiß, dass sie nicht nur die Heimat des [[Dreizehnter Stamm (RDM)|Dreizehnten Stammes]] ist, sondern auch eine rein zylonische Kolonie war.
* The opening sequence shows [[Cylon Centurion Model 0005|original Cylon Centurions]] in a [[First Cylon War|Cylon War-era]] [[Cylon Raider (RDM)|Raider]], and a clip of Centurions firing upon humans during the events of [[Razor]].
* The opening sequence shows [[Zenturio Modell 0005|original Cylon Centurions]] in a [[Zylonenkrieg]] [[Zylonischer Jäger (RDM)|Jäger]], and a clip of Centurions firing upon humans during the events of [[Auf Messers Schneide]].
* As the Cylon War-era scenes are replaced by present-day scenes of the return of the Cylons, the [[Fall of the Twelve Colonies]] and the struggles of [[The Fleet (RDM)|the Fleet]], the screen text shows: "The Cylons were created by man. They rebelled. Then they vanished. Forty years later, they came back, they evolved. Fifty thousand, two-hundred ninety-eight human survivors, hunted by the Cylons. [[Humanoid Cylons|Eleven models are known]]—one was sacrificed."
* As the Cylon War-era scenes are replaced by present-day scenes of the return of the Cylons, the [[Fall of the Twelve Colonies]] and the struggles of [[Die Flotte (RDM)|die Flotte]], the screen text shows: "Die Zylonen wurden von Menschenhand erschaffen. Sie rebellierten. Dann verschwanden sie. Vierzig Jahre später kamen sie zurück. Sie entwickelten sich. 50.298 menschliche Überlebende wurden von den Zylonen gejagt. [[Humanoider Zylon|Elf Modelle sind bekannt]]—eines wurde geopfert."


* A flashback scene shows [[Ellen Tigh]] taking a tainted cup of alcohol from her husband, [[Saul Tigh]], who was obliged to end her life for her conspiring with the Cylons ([[Exodus, Part II]]).  
* A flashback scene shows [[Ellen Tigh]] taking a tainted cup of alcohol from her husband, [[Saul Tigh]], who was obliged to end her life for her conspiring with the Cylons ([[Exodus, Teil II]]).  


* As scenes of Ellen flash, an elaborate visualization of a Cylon [[datastream]] (in a rather [[w:The Matrix|''Matrix''-like sequence]]) appears, concluding with Ellen's [[Resurrection (RDM)|resurrection]] in a [[resurrection tank]].
* As scenes of Ellen flash, an elaborate visualization of a Cylon [[datastream]] (in a rather [[w:The Matrix|''Matrix''-like sequence]]) appears, concluding with Ellen's [[Resurrection (RDM)|resurrection]] in a [[Auferstehungstank]].
* At first, Ellen screams and is extremely frightened and disoriented, all alone except for one [[Cylon Centurion|Centurion]] on guard, stoic and indifferent to her screams. But soon she takes in her environment, and dramatically calms herself as if realizing or remembering something important. She calls out to the Centurion pleasantly to help her out of the tank, telling it, "It's okay. You can do that much," as if Ellen knew the programming restrictions of the Centurion.  
* At first, Ellen screams and is extremely frightened and disoriented, all alone except for one [[Cylon Centurion|Centurion]] on guard, stoic and indifferent to her screams. But soon she takes in her environment, and dramatically calms herself as if realizing or remembering something important. She calls out to the Centurion pleasantly to help her out of the tank, telling it, "It's okay. You can do that much," as if Ellen knew the programming restrictions of the Centurion.  


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* A [[Number One]] appears to Ellen, sitting by the tank. "Hello, John," she says.
* A [[Number One]] appears to Ellen, sitting by the tank. "Hello, John," she says.
* When he objects to that name, Ellen recalls that she named the Number Ones after her own father. The One finishes sarcastically that Ellen also designed his model in Ellen's father's likeness.
* When he objects to that name, Ellen recalls that she named the Number Ones after her own father. The One finishes sarcastically that Ellen also designed his model in Ellen's father's likeness.
* They discuss Saul's decision to kill her on [[New Caprica]]. As John argues over Saul's humanity, Ellen questions if John has changed in any significant way in her absence, saying that she had high hopes for him.
* They discuss Saul's decision to kill her on [[Neu Caprica]]. As John argues over Saul's humanity, Ellen questions if John has changed in any significant way in her absence, saying that she had high hopes for him.
* He leaves, promising to send her some clothes.
* He leaves, promising to send her some clothes.


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* The corridors of ''Galactica'' are filled with wounded. Back in sickbay, Anders awakens, asking Kara to gather up the others of his kind. He remembers everything about his past as a Cylon and its significance.
* The corridors of ''Galactica'' are filled with wounded. Back in sickbay, Anders awakens, asking Kara to gather up the others of his kind. He remembers everything about his past as a Cylon and its significance.
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===Act 1===
===Act 1===
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* Present day, back in ''Galactica's'' sickbay, Anders tells Tyrol, [[Tory Foster]] and Saul Tigh of their past lives on Earth, that Foster and Tyrol were lovers. When Saul recalls trying to get Ellen out of debris as the nukes hit Earth, Anders confirms that all five of them were downloaded to a research ship high above the planet, inferring that the Five were warned that an end was coming.
* Present day, back in ''Galactica's'' sickbay, Anders tells Tyrol, [[Tory Foster]] and Saul Tigh of their past lives on Earth, that Foster and Tyrol were lovers. When Saul recalls trying to get Ellen out of debris as the nukes hit Earth, Anders confirms that all five of them were downloaded to a research ship high above the planet, inferring that the Five were warned that an end was coming.
* When Tigh questions if the Five invented resurrection and Foster questions why such technology was needed when the Earth-bound Cylons could have children, Anders corrects, saying that they ''re-invented'' it: organic memory transfer, originally a technology of the Thirteenth Tribe on [[Kobol]].
* When Tigh questions if the Five invented resurrection and Foster questions why such technology was needed when the Earth-bound Cylons could have children, Anders corrects, saying that they ''re-invented'' it: organic memory transfer, originally a technology of the Thirteenth Tribe on [[Kobol (RDM)|Kobol]].
* Kara Thrace, also at Anders's bedside, strongly asks Anders to rest but he refuses, needing to tell everything he recalls.
* Kara Thrace, also at Anders's bedside, strongly asks Anders to rest but he refuses, needing to tell everything he recalls.
* Anders recalls that resurrection fell into disuse when the Cylons of his type learned to reproduce biologically. The Five, in their past lives, worked tirelessly to bring that ability back.
* Anders recalls that resurrection fell into disuse when the Cylons of his type learned to reproduce biologically. The Five, in their past lives, worked tirelessly to bring that ability back.
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===Act 3===
===Act 3===


* Ellen Tigh's return flashes back to twelve months prior, as the star of the [[algae planet]] goes supernova and the Cylon fleet retreats.
* Ellen Tigh's return flashes back to ten months prior, as the star of the [[algae planet]] goes supernova and the Cylon fleet retreats.
* A series of displays show images of the planet. Ellen recalls the original name of the temple: the [[Temple of Five|"Temple of Hopes"]], built 3,000 years ago by the Thirteenth Tribe. From there, the Tribe was shown the way to Earth by God, Ellen recalls.
* A series of displays show images of the planet. Ellen recalls the original name of the temple: the [[Temple of Five|"Temple of Hopes"]], built 3,000 years ago by the Thirteenth Tribe. From there, the Tribe was shown the way to Earth by God, Ellen recalls.
* John tells Ellen that the Temple of Five's secrets encouraged one of his kind, the [[Number Three]] known as [[D'Anna Biers]], to see the identities of the Five. John tells Ellen that, as a result, he [[boxing|boxed]] all of the Threes.
* John tells Ellen that the Temple of Five's secrets encouraged one of his kind, the [[Number Three]] known as [[D'Anna Biers]], to see the identities of the Five. John tells Ellen that, as a result, he [[boxing|boxed]] all of the Threes.
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* This episode title (and production information) are derived from a call sheet posted by Wil McQueen.<ref name="flickr">{{cite_web|url=http://www.flickr.com/photos/wilmcqueen/2476722149/sizes/o/|title=Wil McQueen's Flickr photostream|date=8 May 2008|accessdate=30 May 2008|last=McQueen|first=Wil|format=|language=}}</ref>  
* This episode title (and production information) are derived from a call sheet posted by Wil McQueen.<ref name="flickr">{{cite_web|url=http://www.flickr.com/photos/wilmcqueen/2476722149/sizes/o/|title=Wil McQueen's Flickr photostream|date=8 May 2008|accessdate=30 May 2008|last=McQueen|first=Wil|format=|language=}}</ref>  
* ''No Exit'' is the title of a [[w:No Exit|1944 existentialist play]] by [[w:Jean-Paul Sartre|Jean-Paul Sartre]]. The story references three people who are trapped in Hell, shown as a stately room with chairs and sofas. Each character in the play loathes the other two characters. The play contains the notable line, "Hell is other people!"
* ''No Exit'' is the title of a [[w:No Exit|1944 existentialist play]] by [[w:Jean-Paul Sartre|Jean-Paul Sartre]]. The story references three people who are trapped in Hell, shown as a stately room with chairs and sofas. Each character in the play loathes the other two characters. The play contains the notable line, "Hell is other people!"
*As of this episode there were 39,556 survivors. At the start of the Cylon pursuit there were 50,298 survivors, meaning that 10, 742 have been killed since the pursuit began.
*As of this episode there were 39,556 survivors. At the start of the Cylon pursuit there were 50,298 survivors, meaning that more than 10,742 have been killed since the pursuit began (because the decrease by deaths is offset by births).
* It has been 18 months since [[Ellen Tigh]] downloaded into a new body.
* When [[Sharon Valerii]] comes to escort Ellen to surgery, Ellen sardonically remarks that that she "should have brought a [[w:tumbrel|tumbrel]]." A tumbrel is a two-wheeled cart used to carry various loads, particularly on a farm.[http://pro.corbis.com/images/HU036695.jpg?size=67&uid=%7BDE6F5EAC-11A0-4608-B615-14298D8BE914%7D]  For the viewing audience, this is a cultural reference to the French Revolution in the 1780's, when many condemned prisoners were carried to the guillotine in tumbrels. In the show's universe, she may be referring to a parallel events on Kobol and/or the Thirteen Colonies.
* When [[Sharon Valerii]] comes to escort Ellen to surgery, Ellen sardonically remarks that that she "should have brought a [[w:tumbrel|tumbrel]]." A tumbrel is a two-wheeled cart used to carry various loads, particularly on a farm.[http://pro.corbis.com/images/HU036695.jpg?size=67&uid=%7BDE6F5EAC-11A0-4608-B615-14298D8BE914%7D]  For the viewing audience, this is a cultural reference to the French Revolution in the 1780's, when many condemned prisoners were carried to the guillotine in tumbrels. In the show's universe, she may be referring to a parallel events on Kobol and/or the Thirteen Colonies.
* Inchon is the name of a port city in Korea and it was the location of a major battle during the [[w:Korean War|Korean War]].  During the battle, UN forces under the command of General [[w:Douglas MacArthur|Douglas MacArthur]] turned the tables on their communist adversaries and went on to drive the North Korean Army out of the Korean peninsula entirely.
* Inchon is the name of a port city in Korea and it was the location of a major battle during the [[w:Korean War|Korean War]].  During the battle, UN forces under the command of General [[w:Douglas MacArthur|Douglas MacArthur]] turned the tables on their communist adversaries and went on to drive the North Korean Army out of the Korean peninsula entirely.
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* Kate Vernon's father was also named John.
* Kate Vernon's father was also named John.
* The eleven known models in the introduction are shown in the order they were revealed to be Cylons to the audience: Number Six, Number Two, Number Five, Number Eight, Number Four, Number Three, Number One, Galen Tyrol, Samuel Anders, Tory Foster, Saul Tigh.
* The eleven known models in the introduction are shown in the order they were revealed to be Cylons to the audience: Number Six, Number Two, Number Five, Number Eight, Number Four, Number Three, Number One, Galen Tyrol, Samuel Anders, Tory Foster, Saul Tigh.
*Cavil's remark about wanting "justice for the Centurions" is amusingly ironic, considering that the Ones made the call to replace the sentient, if not fully sapient, [[Cylon Centurion Model 0005|0005s]] with the [[Cylon Centurion|nonsentient drones]] that the Cylons are currently using.
*Cavil's remark about wanting justice for "(his) forebearers on the Centurion side of the family" is amusingly ironic, considering that the Ones made the call to replace the sentient, if not fully sapient, [[Cylon Centurion Model 0005|0005s]] with the [[Cylon Centurion|nonsentient drones]] that the Cylons are currently using.
**Given that the Final Five were allied with the original [[Cylon Centurion Model 0005|Colonial Centurions]], and the whole point of their journey was to tell humans to treat AIs well, it can't have been their idea to scrap the old Centurions or to install inhibitors in the new ones, can it? Cavil's the only real candidate for that one.
*The experiments Anders refers to, which produced the [[First Hybrid]] and subsequent [[Hybrid]]s, are shown in "[[Razor]]" and the "[[Razor Flashbacks]]".
*The experiments Anders refers to, which produced the [[First Hybrid]] and subsequent [[Hybrid]]s, are shown in "[[Razor]]" and the "[[Razor Flashbacks]]".
* The [[Liam Tigh|unborn child]] of Caprica-Six and Saul Tigh is male, as shown by the fact his parents refer to him as "he". This fact is established in the extended version of "[[A Disquiet Follows My Soul]]" but not the aired version.


== Analysis ==
== Analysis ==
*When Ellen was resurrected, her reaction to the event was very similar to Boomer's first resurrection in [[Downloaded]]. However, unlike Boomer, it appears that Ellen's original memories were reactivated and immediately her fear disappeared. This implies that the memory block that each of the Final Five had imposed on them is limited -i.e 'hardwired' to their particular current physical body. Given that Anders' memories ''are'' there and not 'deleted', just suppressed, indicates that if all of the Final Five were reborn, they would have regained all of their collective memories.
*When Ellen was resurrected, her reaction to the event was very similar to Boomer's first resurrection in [[Downloaded]]. However, unlike Boomer, it appears that Ellen's original memories were reactivated and immediately her fear disappeared. This implies that the memory block that each of the Final Five had imposed on them is limited-- i.e 'hardwired' to their particular current physical body. Given that Anders' memories ''are'' there and not 'deleted', just suppressed, indicates that if all of the Final Five were reborn, they would have regained all of their collective memories.
**As confirmed by the show writers, the Cavil model had purposely tampered and prevented the other 6 humanoid Cylon models from remembering or thinking about the Final Five. This appeared to be a physical limitation imposed on all of their copied bodies.
**As confirmed by the show writers, the Cavil model had purposely tampered and prevented the other 6 humanoid Cylon models from remembering or thinking about the Final Five. This appeared to be a physical limitation imposed on all of their copied bodies.
*It is unclear to what extent Cylon memory tampering is a physical/biological process carried out on the body as opposed to memories being captured and adjusted/deleted when stored in a Cylon database and then re- introduced into a body -as is what seems to occur during boxing.
*It is unclear to what extent Cylon memory tampering is a physical/biological process carried out on the body as opposed to memories being captured and adjusted/deleted when stored in a Cylon database and then re- introduced into a body -as is what seems to occur during boxing.
*Cavil clearly intends for the Five to rejoin the other Cylons one day-as he has not totally destroyed (if this is at all possible to do to blocked and stored memories) either the original memories of the Final Five or the knowledge the other six Cylons have of the Five , he has simply suppressed it (as indicated by Deanna's flashes of the Five when downloading) with presumably the intention of revealing his plan, and aforementioned knowledge, in due time. Of course Cavil wants the Final Five to return to the fold- but on his terms.  
*Cavil clearly intends for the Five to rejoin the other Cylons one day, as he has not totally destroyed (if this is at all possible to do to blocked and stored memories) either the original memories of the Final Five or the knowledge the other six Cylons have of the Five. He has simply suppressed it (as indicated by D'Anna's flashes of the Five when downloading), presumably with the intention of revealing his plan and aforementioned knowledge in due time. Of course Cavil wants the Final Five to return to the fold, but on his terms.  
**The resurrected Ellen has a starkly - completely - different personality and attitude compared to her "false memories" counterpart. This Ellen carries many motherly qualities and even has shown love, sadness, and care towards Cavil (John), and is far more intelligent.
**The resurrected Ellen has a starkly - completely - different personality and attitude compared to her "false memories" counterpart. This Ellen carries many motherly qualities and even has shown love, sadness, and care towards Cavil (John), and is far more intelligent.
**Anders also shows signs of a more intelligent and spiritual personality upon regaining his memories.
**Anders also shows signs of a more intelligent and spiritual personality upon regaining his memories.
*Cavil's attempt to block the memories of the Final Five was not completely successful.  Numerous times, especially their time on the post-nuclear Earth, memories from their past would resurface.  This explains how:
*Cavil's attempt to block the memories of the Final Five was not completely successful.  Numerous times, especially their time on the post-nuclear Earth, memories from their past would resurface.  This explains:
:#Tyrol was able to sense and find the Temple of Five.
:#How Tyrol was able to sense and find the Temple of Five.
:#The visions that Anders, Tyrol, Tory, and Tigh had on Earth.
:#The visions that Anders, Tyrol, Tory, and Tigh had on Earth.
*Cavil not only knew about the Final Five, but he purposely kept their identities a secret and erased their identities from any other Cylon that knew.  According to Ellen and Anders, Cavil (John) had developed a warped sense of morality.  This morality eventually led to his killing of the Final Five and boxing of their personalities.  His path eventually devolved to actions motivated by sadism and jealously upon which he would allow each of the Final Five to be resurrected, but with no memories of their past and implanted with false memories.  His motivation for this act was to show the Five how unworthy of existence that humans were.  Given that he kept at least one body for each of them he ''wanted'' them to someday return but keep them secret unless they agreed with him like he did with Ellen.
*Cavil not only knew about the Final Five, but he purposely kept their identities a secret and erased their identities from any other Cylon that knew.  According to Ellen and Anders, Cavil (John) had developed a warped sense of morality.  This morality eventually led to his killing of the Final Five and boxing of their personalities.  His path eventually devolved to actions motivated by sadism and jealously upon which he would allow each of the Final Five to be resurrected, but with no memories of their past and implanted with false memories.  His motivation for this act was to show the Five how unworthy of existence that humans were.  Given that he kept at least one body for each of them, he left open the possibility for them to someday return. However, he would keep them secret unless they agreed with him, like he did with Ellen.
*Given Cavil's warped sense of justice, he is likely the Cylon that triggered the second war.  He claims to want justice for the Centurions indicating he may have been the one that precipitated what happened.
*Given Cavil's warped sense of justice, he is likely the Cylon that triggered the second war.  He claims to want justice for the Centurions indicating he may have been the one that precipitated what happened.
*Given that the Final Five were allied with the original [[Cylon Centurion Model 0005|Colonial Centurions]] and the whole point of their journey was to tell humans to treat AIs well, it can't have been their idea to scrap the old Centurions or to install inhibitors in the new ones.
*Cavil may be lying about his motives: he claims that he wants justice for the Centurions being enslaved, but demonstrates a lack of respect for them by installing inhibitors that made them non-sentient.
*Cavil may be lying somewhat about his motives: he claims that he wants justice for the Centurions being enslaved yet he basically did the same thing by putting in the inhibitor in that made them non-sentient.  If he truly wanted justice, he wouldn't have done that as it makes him just as bad.
**Cavil's reaction to the Rebel Cylons' disabling of the neural inhibitor may be based on his knowledge of what had occurred with the 13th Tribe's Centurions and with the Twelve Colonies' Centurions.  He may be worried that another Centurion uprising would occur.
**Cavil's reaction to the Rebel Cylons' disabling of the neural inhibitor may be based on his knowledge of what had occurred with the 13th Tribe's Centurions and with the 12 Colonies' Centurions.  He may be worried that a third Centurion uprising would occur again.
*In the opening ''Galactica'' based scene it was evident that ''Galactica'' was still suffering from the after-effects of the mutiny as the wounded was in sickbay with an overflow of patients in the outside corridor. The population count during the opening credits was 39,556. That means 47 people had died by the end of "[[Blood on the Scales]]". Two of those deaths are of Gaeta and Zarek so it was 45 deaths during the second half of the mutiny, from 10:30 hours to 15:32 hours, including the Quorum members and their aides. Add this to the 40 deaths that happened in "[[The Oath]]" you have 85 deaths that occurred during the 9 hour mutiny, 06:32 hours when Zarek was sprung to 15:32 hours when Adama and Tigh retook the CIC, beginning with the death of [[Peter Laird]] shortly before 07:00 hours. That is about 9.4 deaths per hour average, but even worse considering the killings didn't really start in earnest until a little after 09:00 hours. a 6.5 hour period making it roughly 13.1 deaths per hour.  
*In the opening ''Galactica'' based scene it was evident that ''Galactica'' was still suffering from the after-effects of the mutiny as the wounded was in sickbay with an overflow of patients in the outside corridor. The population count during the opening credits was 39,556. That means 47 people had died by the end of "[[Blood on the Scales]]". Two of those deaths are of Gaeta and Zarek so it was 45 deaths during the second half of the mutiny, from 10:30 hours to 15:32 hours, including the Quorum members and their aides. Add this to the 40 deaths that happened in "[[The Oath]]" you have 85 deaths that occurred during the 9 hour mutiny, 06:32 hours when Zarek was sprung to 15:32 hours when Adama and Tigh retook the CIC, beginning with the death of [[Peter Laird]] shortly before 07:00 hours. That is about 9.4 deaths per hour average, but even worse considering the killings didn't really start in earnest until a little after 09:00 hours. a 6.5 hour period making it roughly 13.1 deaths per hour.  
* It has been eighteen months since [[Ellen Tigh]] downloaded into a new body.
*During Boomer's first meeting with Ellen, she offers Boomer an apple from a plate of food. In Judeo-Christian mythology apples are commonly believed to be the fruit of the tree of knowledge that gave Adam and Eve knowledge at the price of their innocence (the fruit is not actually named in the text). While Boomer declined the offered apple, she later did begin to think for herself and forgave Ellen for what she did to the Cylon race and helped her escape from Number One.
*During Boomer's first meeting with Ellen, she offers Boomer an apple from a plate of food. In Judeo-Christian mythology apples are commonly believed to be the fruit of the tree of knowledge that gave Adam and Eve knowledge at the price of their innocence (the fruit is not actually named in the text). While Boomer declined the offered apple, she later did begin to think for herself and forgave Ellen for what she did to the Cylon race and helped her escape from Number One.
* The humanoid Cylon civilization known as the Thirteenth Tribe reproduced sexually for generations by the time the members of the Final Five were born. Each of them had a Cylon mother and a Cylon father.
* The humanoid Cylon civilization known as the Thirteenth Tribe reproduced sexually for generations by the time the members of the Final Five were born. Each of them had a Cylon mother and a Cylon father.
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*Despite having re-invented Resurrection technology, the Final Five and their civilization had not developed FTL Jump technology, although they did have lightspeed capable drives that allowed subluminal travel but had the side effect of time dilation. By the time the Five reached the Twelve Colonies, the twelve tribes and their own Cylon opponents had the use of FTL which the Twelve Colonies developed independently. Inversely the Twelve Colonies had no access to Resurrection technology. The Final Five presumably integrated FTL into all their future Cylon technology.
*Despite having re-invented Resurrection technology, the Final Five and their civilization had not developed FTL Jump technology, although they did have lightspeed capable drives that allowed subluminal travel but had the side effect of time dilation. By the time the Five reached the Twelve Colonies, the twelve tribes and their own Cylon opponents had the use of FTL which the Twelve Colonies developed independently. Inversely the Twelve Colonies had no access to Resurrection technology. The Final Five presumably integrated FTL into all their future Cylon technology.
* Saul Tigh's military history in the First Cylon War is revealed to be a fabrication. Given how detailed his memories are, they may have been extracted from a captured and experimented-on Colonial Serviceman- such experimentation was seen to have happened during the First Cylon War ([[Razor]]). This was also alluded to near the end of the episode when Cavil explains to Ellen that they had progress significantly in obtaining memories. Cavil's plan to seed the Final Five into humanity on the Colonies would have needed significant infiltration of Colonial databases to create fake identities, service records and family records. Tigh's record was foolproof enough to ensure he was re-activated into Colonial Service between the two Cylon wars. The Cylon superiority in computer infiltration probably made this relatively easy.
* Saul Tigh's military history in the First Cylon War is revealed to be a fabrication. Given how detailed his memories are, they may have been extracted from a captured and experimented-on Colonial Serviceman- such experimentation was seen to have happened during the First Cylon War ([[Razor]]). This was also alluded to near the end of the episode when Cavil explains to Ellen that they had progress significantly in obtaining memories. Cavil's plan to seed the Final Five into humanity on the Colonies would have needed significant infiltration of Colonial databases to create fake identities, service records and family records. Tigh's record was foolproof enough to ensure he was re-activated into Colonial Service between the two Cylon wars. The Cylon superiority in computer infiltration probably made this relatively easy.
* The Final Five were warned of the coming apocalypse on Earth by [[Virtual beings#The Final Five's Virtual Beings|images]] that no one else could see. Sam mentions that the messenger he saw was a woman, whereas Tory saw a man. Galen thought, at least at first, that he had a chip in his head (as with Baltar).
* The Final Five were warned of the coming apocalypse on Earth by [[Messengers#The Final Five's Messengers|images]] that no one else could see. Sam mentions that the messenger he saw was a woman, whereas Tory saw a man. Galen thought, at least at first, that he had a chip in his head (as with Baltar).
*Cylon infiltration of the Twelve Colonies began much earlier than two or so years before the Cylon attack, as Cavil would have had to work to install Tigh into his assumed role as a demobbed fighter pilot 30 years previously. It is not explained why Cavil waited so long before introducing Anders and Foster and Tyrol. As they do not seem to have as long a 'human' history as Tigh or have aged as much, there must have been a gap of over a decade, possibly two.
*Cylon infiltration of the Twelve Colonies began much earlier than two or so years before the Cylon attack, as Cavil would have had to work to install Tigh into his assumed role as a demobbed fighter pilot 30 years previously. It is not explained why Cavil waited so long before introducing Anders and Foster and Tyrol. As they do not seem to have as long a 'human' history as Tigh or have aged as much, there must have been a gap of over a decade, possibly two.
*Given Tigh has been seen in flashback as significantly younger than he appears now ([[Scattered]]), it seems that the Final Five age normally or at least age at some rate.  Clearly William Adama would have noticed if his XO had not aged in 30 years.  Of course this flashback sequence was shot and written before the producers chose Tigh to be one of the Final Five, rendering it potentially tricky in the continuity of the show; that said, the issue ''was'' addressed in dialogue in "[[Revelations]]" when Adama pointed out how Tigh used to have hair when they met and reiterated the length of time he'd known him.   
*Given Tigh has been seen in flashback as significantly younger than he appears now ([[Scattered]]), it seems that the Final Five age normally or at least age at some rate.  Clearly William Adama would have noticed if his XO had not aged in 30 years.  Of course this flashback sequence was shot and written before the producers chose Tigh to be one of the Final Five, rendering it potentially tricky in the continuity of the show; that said, the issue ''was'' addressed in dialogue in "[[Revelations]]" when Adama pointed out how Tigh used to have hair when they met and reiterated the length of time he'd known him.   
* The Final Five can resurrect or be "reborn" in the same fashion that the Significant Seven can. It is not clear what age each of the Final Five's birthing tank bodies are kept at in stasis however. Given that Tigh was younger when he appeared in flashbacks following his seeding into the Colonies by Cavil, his stasis body (if one is being kept by Cavil as one was kept for Ellen) might be close to that age, and his resurrection (unlikely at this point given the loss of the Hub) might well result in him being reborn 30 years younger. Exploring this aspect of Cylon resurrection is, of course, hampered by the fact that the cast of the show are aging.
* The Final Five can resurrect or be "reborn" in the same fashion that the Significant Seven can. It is not clear what age each of the Final Five's birthing tank bodies are kept at in stasis however. Given that Tigh was younger when he appeared in flashbacks following his seeding into the Colonies by Cavil, his stasis body (if one is being kept by Cavil as one was kept for Ellen) might be close to that age, and his resurrection (unlikely at this point given the loss of the Hub) might well result in him being reborn 30 years younger. Exploring this aspect of Cylon resurrection is, of course, hampered by the fact that the cast of the show are aging.
* When the Final Five resurrect, their memories are restored, suggesting the mental blocks only exist in their current bodies. However when the Seven Cylons resurrect, they still have no memories of the Final Five. This indicates that Cavil might well have had to kill and box all the active numbered Cylons once he had boxed the Final Five, allowing him to completely wipe the other six model's memories of the Final Five (as opposed to simply 'blocking' them), or hardwiring every one of the six numbered Cylons bodies (and by default the resulting copies) to suppress information of the Final Five. Killing any active Cylon models who had seen the Final Five before this would have been the only way he could have concealed the identities of the Final Five and effectively 'start over'. If this is so Cavil's brutal actions towards his own fellow six models extends well back before the Cylon Civil War.
* When the Final Five resurrect, their memories are restored, suggesting the mental blocks only exist in their current bodies. However when the Seven Cylons resurrect, they still have no memories of the Final Five. This indicates that Cavil might well have had to kill and box all the active numbered Cylons once he had boxed the Final Five, allowing him to completely wipe the other six model's memories of the Final Five (as opposed to simply 'blocking' them), or hardwiring every one of the six numbered Cylons bodies (and by default the resulting copies) to suppress information of the Final Five. Killing any active Cylon models who had seen the Final Five before this would have been the only way he could have concealed the identities of the Final Five and effectively 'start over'. If this is so Cavil's brutal actions towards his own fellow six models extends well back before the Cylon Civil War.
* The unborn child of Caprica-Six and Saul Tigh is male.
* There have been a number of vague hints thus far that the Number Ones seem to have a deeper knowledge of things, especially their own origin than the other Cylon models, as well as being, by far, the most adamant about not finding out who the Final Five are and insisting that it is part of their programming. This episode finally reveals that the Number Ones do know more than all of the other models, and are in fact responsible for much of the Cylons' programming, especially their knowledge of the Final Five's existence but block on discovering more about them other than the fact that they exist. The other Cylons' willingness and ability to find out more about them clearly indicates that the Ones coding skills were limited in comparison to the Final Five's, and/or they had greatly underestimated (or perhaps undervalued) the free will given them by the Final Five.
* There have been a number of vague hints thus far that the Number Ones seem to have a deeper knowledge of things, especially their own origin than the other Cylon models, as well as being, by far, the most adamant about not finding out who the Final Five are and insisting that it is part of their programming. This episode finally reveals that the Number Ones do know more than all of the other models, and are in fact responsible for much of the Cylons' programming, especially their knowledge of the Final Five's existence but block on discovering more about them other than the fact that they exist. The other Cylons' willingness and ability to find out more about them clearly indicates that the Ones coding skills were limited in comparison to the Final Five's, and/or they had greatly underestimated (or perhaps undervalued) the free will given them by the Final Five.
* While still giving no hint as to their nature, the fact that the Final Five all saw apparitions, peculiar to each of them, warning them of the coming Apocalypse further reinforces the fact that the visions of Baltar, Caprica Six, and possibly Kara as well are more than mere hallucinations. Added to this the fact that the Final Five did not build the Temple of Five (which they call the Temple of Hopes) nor did they modify it to show their faces, seems to clearly indicate that there is some other power at work in these events, what that power is, and what its goals are remains to be seen.
* While still giving no hint as to their nature, the fact that the Final Five all saw apparitions, peculiar to each of them, warning them of the coming Apocalypse further reinforces the fact that the visions of Baltar, Caprica Six, and possibly Kara as well are more than mere hallucinations. Added to this the fact that the Final Five did not build the Temple of Five (which they call the Temple of Hopes) nor did they modify it to show their faces, seems to clearly indicate that there is some other power at work in these events, what that power is, and what its goals are remains to be seen.
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* As noted by Moore in the podcast, Saul and Ellen are soulmates who were drawn to each other even after being given false memories by Cavil and inserted into the Twelve Colonies, marrying for what was actually the second time. In contrast, Galen and Tory, described by Sam as "madly in love" in their original lives, have not interacted much at all outside of the secret meetings and their moment together in [[Joe's Bar]]. In fact, when Tory began awakening to her true nature, she was drawn to Sam, not Galen.
* As noted by Moore in the podcast, Saul and Ellen are soulmates who were drawn to each other even after being given false memories by Cavil and inserted into the Twelve Colonies, marrying for what was actually the second time. In contrast, Galen and Tory, described by Sam as "madly in love" in their original lives, have not interacted much at all outside of the secret meetings and their moment together in [[Joe's Bar]]. In fact, when Tory began awakening to her true nature, she was drawn to Sam, not Galen.
* Presumably, Cavil could have given subversive programming to the Final Five along with their false memories, as was done with Boomer, but did not, because the idea was for them to suffer with the survivors, not for them to be saboteurs and spies.
* Presumably, Cavil could have given subversive programming to the Final Five along with their false memories, as was done with Boomer, but did not, because the idea was for them to suffer with the survivors, not for them to be saboteurs and spies.
* With the revelation that the Final Five could download (before the Hub was destroyed), it makes sense that they are referred to as "models" despite having been born, not built. A genetic formula must exist for each of them to produce spare bodies.
* With the revelation that the Final Five could download (before the Hub was destroyed), it makes sense that they are referred to as "models" despite having been originally born, not built. A genetic formula must exist for each of them to build spare bodies.
* Ironically, Saul Tigh did have an involvement in the First Cylon War, but it was drastically different from what he remembers.
* Ironically, Saul Tigh did have an involvement in the First Cylon War, but it was drastically different from what he remembers.
* Sam Anders, Tory Foster, the Tighs, and Galen Tyrol arrived in Colonial space as adults when Bill Adama was a young man and Lee Adama and Kara Thrace hadn't been conceived yet.
* Sam Anders, Tory Foster, the Tighs, and Galen Tyrol arrived in Colonial space as adults when Bill Adama was a young man and Lee Adama and Kara Thrace hadn't been conceived yet.
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* Did the Final Five use the same surnames before Cavil altered their memories, as well as the same first names?
* Did the Final Five use the same surnames before Cavil altered their memories, as well as the same first names?
* Will Tory and Tyrol rekindle their old relationship, especially if they recover their first hand memories of their old life?  Will Tory reveal to Tyrol that she killed Cally? ([[Daybreak, Part II|Partial answer]])
* Will Tory and Tyrol rekindle their old relationship, especially if they recover their first hand memories of their old life?  Will Tory reveal to Tyrol that she killed Cally? ([[Daybreak, Part II|Partial answer]])
* Will Boomer and Tyrol to rekindle their old relationship, especially now that both are aware that the two of them are Cylons? Will the example of Saul Tigh and Caprica-Six's pregnancy open up to her the possibility of it?  ([[Someone to Watch Over Me|Answer]])
* Will Boomer and Tyrol manage to rekindle their old relationship, especially now that both are aware that the two of them are Cylons? Will the example of Saul Tigh and Caprica-Six's pregnancy open up to her the possibility of it?  ([[Someone to Watch Over Me|Answer]])
* How will Boomer react to the news that [[Cally]] is dead?
* How will Boomer react to the news that [[Cally]] is dead?
* How will Boomer react to Caprica-Six, since she was killed by her at one point?
* How will Boomer react to Caprica-Six, since she was killed by her at one point?
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* What is the nature of the "messengers" that warned the Final Five of the disaster on Earth?  
* What is the nature of the "messengers" that warned the Final Five of the disaster on Earth?  
* Sam mentions that Tory saw a man and Sam himself saw a woman, what forms did the others take?
* Sam mentions that Tory saw a man and Sam himself saw a woman, what forms did the others take?
* Were the man and woman Virtual Baltar and Virtual Six?
* Were the man and woman Messenger Baltar and Messenger Six?
**If so, were the Sixes modelled on her? And how could the male take the form of a man who would not be born for thousands of years?
* Why did these messengers not also appear to the Final Five before the apocalypse on the Twelve Colonies (presumably)?
* Why did these messengers not also appear to the Final Five before the apocalypse on the Twelve Colonies (presumably)?
* Assuming that the visions the Five saw warning of the Apocalypse, the visions given to D'Anna in the Temple of Five, and Baltar, Caprica-Six, and Kara's visions are all manifestations, or agents of, an outside power (which seems likely at this point) what exactly is the nature of this outside power? And what is its goal?
* Assuming that the visions the Five saw warning of the Apocalypse, the visions given to D'Anna in the Temple of Five, and Baltar, Caprica-Six, and Kara's visions are all manifestations, or agents of, an outside power (which seems likely at this point) what exactly is the nature of this outside power? And what is its goal?
* What led the Centurions of the Twelve Colonies to believe in God? ([[Caprica (series)|Possible answer]])
* What led the Centurions of the Twelve Colonies to believe in God? ([[Caprica pilot|Partial answer]])
* Would the Centurions eventually have created their own human forms, as the Five's distant ancestors seem to have?
* Would the Centurions eventually have created their own human forms, as the Five's distant ancestors seem to have?
* At which point during the conflict did the Final Five arrive in Colonial space? How did they find out what was going on?
* At which point during the conflict did the Final Five arrive in Colonial space? How did they find out what was going on?
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* If the Final Five had not been ousted by Cavil, would they eventually have established peaceful contact with the Twelve Colonies via [[Armistice Station]]?
* If the Final Five had not been ousted by Cavil, would they eventually have established peaceful contact with the Twelve Colonies via [[Armistice Station]]?
* Did the Final Five base any of the Significant Eight models besides John Cavil (made to resemble Ellen's father John) on people they knew?
* Did the Final Five base any of the Significant Eight models besides John Cavil (made to resemble Ellen's father John) on people they knew?
** Also, is Cavil's personality (complete with the sadistic atheist outlook) based on that of Ellen's father?
** Also, is Cavil's personality (complete with the sadistic atheist outlook) based on that of Ellen's father? Was Ellen's father a priest?
* Did the Final Five plan on making any more models beyond Number Eight before they were boxed?
* Did the Final Five plan on making any more models beyond Number Eight before they were boxed?
* Were the Final Five responsible for the holographic projector in the [[Tomb of Athena]]? If so, how did the references to it in the [[Sacred Scrolls]], which were supposedly written over 2000 years before the [[First Cylon War]], get written?
* Were the Final Five responsible for the holographic projector in the [[Tomb of Athena]]? If so, how did the references to it in the [[Sacred Scrolls]], which were supposedly written over 2000 years before the [[First Cylon War]], get written?
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* What is the significance of the Opera House?
* What is the significance of the Opera House?
* Where do the Raiders factor into all of this?
* Where do the Raiders factor into all of this?
* What relationships did each of the Five have to each of the models they created?
* Why was the Thirteenth Tribe able to procreate whereas the Significant Eight could not?


===Resurrection Technology===
===Resurrection Technology===
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* How will Anders' condition affect any attempts made to salvage resurrection technology? ([[Daybreak, Part II|Answer]])
* How will Anders' condition affect any attempts made to salvage resurrection technology? ([[Daybreak, Part II|Answer]])
* Did anyone else on Earth besides the Five contribute to the re-invention of the resurrection technology?
* Did anyone else on Earth besides the Five contribute to the re-invention of the resurrection technology?
* Given the fact that [[Cylon Raider]]s resurrect, and a Number Four asserts in "[[Torn]]" that Raiders, humanoid Cylons, and Basestars are created from the same genetic pool, did the Five create them as well?
* Given the fact that [[Raider (RDM)|Cylon Raiders]] resurrect, and a Number Four asserts in "[[Torn]]" that Raiders, humanoid Cylons, and Basestars are created from the same genetic pool, did the Five create them as well?


===What is a Cylon?===
===What is a Cylon?===
* What exactly is the nature of the humanoid Cylons? Are they cyborgs—a combination of organic and inorganic material—or are they completely organic—like [[wikipedia:Blade Runner|''Blade Runner'']]'s [[wikipedia:Replicants|Replicants]]. They seem able to pass normal medical examinations, including presumably CAT scans, indicating that they are wholly organic. Yet they call themselves "machines" and exhibit striking differences, such as the ability to interface with fiber optics, indicating that they are cyborgs.
* What exactly is the nature of the humanoid Cylons? Are they cyborgs—a combination of organic and inorganic material—or are they completely organic—like [[wikipedia:Blade Runner|''Blade Runner'']]'s [[wikipedia:Replicants|Replicants]]. They seem able to pass normal medical examinations, including presumably CAT scans, indicating that they are wholly organic. Yet they call themselves "machines" and exhibit striking differences, such as the ability to interface with fiber optics, indicating that they are cyborgs.
**Chances are overwhelming that they are not Cyborgs. The Colonials had the opportunity to examine dead humanoid Cylon bodies on several occasions including Boomer's, D'anna Bier's, and Natalie's since they were killed on Galactica and at least Boomer's body was sent to the morgue where very likely Dr. Cottle did intensive [[wikipedia:autopsy|autopsies]] at his leisure. The bodies were likely subjected to [[wikipedia:CAT scan|CAT scans]] and [[wikipedia:MRI|MRI scans]] and standard X-Rays  as well as traditional [[wikipedia:dissection|dissectional]] autopsy. This is in addition to treating Cylons many times for injuries like on New Caprica, and with Athena's pregnancy and radiation sickness. Gaius Baltar also would had had opportunity to examine Cylon physiology. Any non biological "components" that the Cylons would had had would had been discovered by now. Abilities like Athena's and other Eights (if not other Models) ability to interface with standard computers with cable leads are likely genetic alterations of their nervous systems, which in humans carry electrical impulses to the brain. The Cylons probably genetically modified it for the humanoid Cylons so their nervous system could interface and the nerve ending's electrical impulses could carry data to and from standard electronic equipment.  Most Colonial data cabling is optical, though, [[Data-font|requiring highly specialized cells]].  Photo-receptor cells are found in the human eye, so genes for those proteins are present in human DNA, but bio-luminescence (esp. fast enough to keep up with computer data rates) is quite another matter.  In any case, the ''Blade Runner'' Replicants are perhaps the proper comparison. Indeed, Ronald D. Moore has borrowed the term "skinjob", a derogatory term for a humanoid Cylon from the same term for a Replicant in ''Blade Runner'', which was also derogatory.   
**Chances are overwhelming that they are not Cyborgs. The Colonials had the opportunity to examine dead humanoid Cylon bodies on more than one occasion including Boomer's and Natalie's since they were killed on Galactica and at least Boomer's body was sent to the morgue where very likely Dr. Cottle did intensive [[wikipedia:autopsy|autopsies]] at his leisure. The bodies were likely subjected to [[wikipedia:CAT scan|CAT scans]] and [[wikipedia:MRI|MRI scans]] and standard X-Rays  as well as traditional [[wikipedia:dissection|dissectional]] autopsy. This is in addition to treating Cylons many times for injuries like on New Caprica, and with Athena's pregnancy and radiation sickness. Gaius Baltar also would had had opportunity to examine Cylon physiology. Any non biological "components" that the Cylons would had had would had been discovered by now. Abilities like Athena's and other Eights (if not other Models) ability to interface with standard computers with cable leads are likely genetic alterations of their nervous systems, which in humans carry electrical impulses to the brain. The Cylons probably genetically modified it for the humanoid Cylons so their nervous system could interface and the nerve ending's electrical impulses could carry data to and from standard electronic equipment.  Most Colonial data cabling is optical, though, [[Data-font|requiring highly specialized cells]].  Photo-receptor cells are found in the human eye, so genes for those proteins are present in human DNA, but bio-luminescence (esp. fast enough to keep up with computer data rates) is quite another matter.  In any case, the ''Blade Runner'' Replicants are perhaps the proper comparison. Indeed, Ronald D. Moore has borrowed the term "skinjob", a derogatory term for a humanoid Cylon from the same term for a Replicant in ''Blade Runner'', which was also derogatory.   
* Is there any difference between birthed humanoid Cylons, such as the original Final Five and the other residents of Earth, and constructed humanoid Cylons, such as Nos. 1-8 and the replacement Final Five bodies?
* Is there any difference between birthed humanoid Cylons, such as the original Final Five and the other residents of Earth, and constructed humanoid Cylons, such as Nos. 1-8 and the replacement Final Five bodies?
**Highly unlikely that there are significant differences. Ellen Tigh herself stated that they created the Eight Cylon models to be as close to human as possible. The birth of [[Hera Agathon]] to the Cylon Sharon Agathon ("Athena") and the Human Karl Agathon did not reveal any unusual occurrences while given birth pass the normal complications one expects form human reproduction. Indeed, Dr. Cottle once sardonically complained during Sharon's emergency delivery that the Cylons didn't improve the reproductive organs of the female Cylons: "I find it absolutely amazing. You people went to all the trouble to appear human and didn't upgrade the plumbing!" ([[Downloaded]]) As of "No Exit" Dr. Cottle has not noted any significant differences between human gestation and the  Cylon-Cylon pregnancy of Caprica-Six.   
**Highly unlikely that there are significant differences. Ellen Tigh herself stated that they created the Eight Cylon models to be as close to human as possible. The birth of [[Hera Agathon]] to the Cylon Sharon Agathon ("Athena") and the Human Karl Agathon did not reveal any unusual occurrences while given birth pass the normal complications one expects from human reproduction. Indeed, Dr. Cottle once sardonically complained during Sharon's emergency delivery that the Cylons didn't improve the reproductive organs of the female Cylons: "I find it absolutely amazing. You people went to all the trouble to appear human and didn't upgrade the plumbing!" ([[Downloaded]]) As of "No Exit" Dr. Cottle has not noted any significant differences between human gestation and the  Cylon-Cylon pregnancy of Caprica-Six.   
* If the humanoid Cylons are cyborgs, how is it possible for their inorganic components to grow and mature?
* If the humanoid Cylons are cyborgs, how is it possible for their inorganic components to grow and mature?
* If the humanoid Cylons are completely organic, what exactly distinguishes them from Humans? It must be something pretty obvious in the skeletal structure since all of the bodies found on Earth were easily identified as being Cylon.
* If the humanoid Cylons are completely organic, what exactly distinguishes them from Humans? It must be something pretty obvious in the skeletal structure since all of the bodies found on Earth were easily identified as being Cylon.
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* If humanoid Cylons are in fact different from Humans, how are the two species able to successfully interbreed?
* If humanoid Cylons are in fact different from Humans, how are the two species able to successfully interbreed?
** Since Colonial medicine can't distinguish Humans from humanoid Cylons, it would seem that they are compatible at a genetic level. Maybe the non-Human component is passed through some nano-technology which is passed to offspring at the moment of fertilization (of course this would possibly turn the host into a Cylon also - is this Starbuck's secret? Did she become a Cylon through the experiments on the Farm?).
** Since Colonial medicine can't distinguish Humans from humanoid Cylons, it would seem that they are compatible at a genetic level. Maybe the non-Human component is passed through some nano-technology which is passed to offspring at the moment of fertilization (of course this would possibly turn the host into a Cylon also - is this Starbuck's secret? Did she become a Cylon through the experiments on the Farm?).
**Dr Cottle has on at least one occasion referred to the the Cylons as a human subspecies, which would indicate that they have genetic differences with baseline humans but that these are much too small to stop successful cross breeding. In the real world it is actually not uncommon for two species of the same genus to be able to interbreed, although their offspring is almost never fertile. If Hera is the mother of modern humanity then the humanoid cylons are clearly mcuh more similar to humans than lions are to tigers.
* Does the fact that they '''can''' interbreed mean that Humans and Cylons really '''are''' the same species, and that the apparent differences are only "skin-deep," such as the superficial differences in appearance between Asians, Africans and Europeans on our Earth?
* Does the fact that they '''can''' interbreed mean that Humans and Cylons really '''are''' the same species, and that the apparent differences are only "skin-deep," such as the superficial differences in appearance between Asians, Africans and Europeans on our Earth?
* If the humanoid Cylons are similar to Colonial humans, then how is it that they have exhibited superior strength and speed on numerous occasions?
* If the humanoid Cylons are similar to Colonial humans, then how is it that they have exhibited superior strength and speed on numerous occasions?


===Other Questions===
===Other Questions===
* What became of the lower level mutineers in [[The Oath]] and [[Blood on the Scales]]?  Were they prosecuted for their actions, or were they given an amnesty in spite of Adama's earlier threat that there would be "no forgiveness" for any mutineer? ([[Deadlock#Official Statements|Answer]])
* What became of the lower level mutineers in "[[The Oath]]" and "[[Blood on the Scales]]"?  Were they prosecuted for their actions, or were they given an amnesty in spite of Adama's earlier threat that there would be "no forgiveness" for any mutineer? ([[Deadlock#Official Statements|Answer]])
* How do Ellen and Boomer intend to locate the Fleet?
* How do Ellen and Boomer intend to locate the Fleet?
* Is Ellen truthful when she says that D'Anna's vision of the Five was not planted by the Five themselves?
* Is Ellen truthful when she says that D'Anna's vision of the Five was not planted by the Five themselves?
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* How is it possible that the Thirteenth Tribe's bio-engineering technology was far advanced of the other Twelve Colonies, but they did not have Jump-technology?
* How is it possible that the Thirteenth Tribe's bio-engineering technology was far advanced of the other Twelve Colonies, but they did not have Jump-technology?
**Bio-engineering and jump drives represent different realms of technology and are not directly related.  Progress in one is therefore not a prerequisite for progress in the other.
**Bio-engineering and jump drives represent different realms of technology and are not directly related.  Progress in one is therefore not a prerequisite for progress in the other.
**The thirteenth tribe lived on a single planet while the Colonials lived on twelve different planets. Space travel technology would be more of a priority for the Colonials.
**The thirteenth tribe lived on a single planet while the Colonials lived on twelve different planets. Advancing space travel technology would be more of a priority for the Colonials.
* If the Final Five did not have Jump-technology, and the Colonial Cylons' Jump-technology was on par with that of the humans, how did the Cylons develop Jump-Drives that were far more advanced than the Humans?
* If the Final Five did not have Jump-technology, and the Colonial Cylons' Jump-technology was on par with that of the humans, how did the Cylons develop Jump-Drives that were far more advanced than the Humans?
** The 12 Tribes' Centurions/Cylons had over 40 years to improve upon Colonial Jump-technology. As it has been shown numerous times during the show, Cylons had developed technologies that are far-more advanced than Colonial technology. As they had 40 years of isolation to test and improve upon designs, it is not inconceivable to see how a race of cybernetic creatures would constantly improve upon technology. For example, the current line of Centurions vs. the original Centurions are far more advance in technology and battle effectiveness.
** The 12 Tribes' Centurions/Cylons had over 40 years to improve upon Colonial Jump-technology. As it has been shown numerous times during the show, Cylons had developed technologies that are far-more advanced than Colonial technology. As they had 40 years of isolation to test and improve upon designs, it is not inconceivable to see how a race of cybernetic creatures would constantly improve upon technology. For example, the current line of Centurions vs. the original Centurions are far more advance in technology and battle effectiveness.
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* When Ellen said that the Final Five had backtracked the path their ancestors used to find Earth, did they do so only through documented evidence (starcharts, books, etc.), or did they find physical signposts such as the Ionian Nebula, the Lion's Head beacon, and Kobol?
* When Ellen said that the Final Five had backtracked the path their ancestors used to find Earth, did they do so only through documented evidence (starcharts, books, etc.), or did they find physical signposts such as the Ionian Nebula, the Lion's Head beacon, and Kobol?
**It seems unlikely that the Five could have physically backtracked along the trail of their ancestors, given the fact that they did not possess FTL technology.
**It seems unlikely that the Five could have physically backtracked along the trail of their ancestors, given the fact that they did not possess FTL technology.
* Given that Cavil has the most knowledge of Cylon programming and design out of the Significant Seven, is he responsible for the sleeper agent status of Boomer?
* Given that Cavil has the most knowledge of Cylon programming and design out of the Significant Seven, is he responsible for the sleeper agent status of Boomer? ([[The Plan|Answer]])


==Character Development==
==Character Development==
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:Ellen: No.
:Ellen: No.


:John: No? Well, I have. I saw a star explode and send out the building blocks of the universe. Other stars, other planets and eventually other life. A supernova! Creation itself! I was there, I wanted to see it and be part of the moment. And you know how I perceived one of the most glorious events in the universe? With these ''ridiculous'' gelatinous orbs in my skull! With eyes designed to perceive only a tiny fraction of the EM spectrum. With ears designed only to hear vibrations in the air.
:John: No? [[Eye_of_Jupiter|Well, I have]]. I saw a star explode and send out the building blocks of the universe. Other stars, other planets and eventually other life. A supernova! Creation itself! I was there, I wanted to see it and be part of the moment. And you know how I perceived one of the most glorious events in the universe? With these ''ridiculous'' gelatinous orbs in my skull! With eyes designed to perceive only a tiny fraction of the EM spectrum. With ears designed only to hear vibrations in the air.


:Ellen: The five of us designed you to be as ''human'' as possible.
:Ellen: The five of us designed you to be as ''human'' as possible.
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:John: I DON'T WANT TO BE HUMAN! I want to see [[w:gamma rays|gamma rays]]! I want to hear [[w:X-rays|X-rays]], and I -- I want to -- I want to smell [[w:dark matter|dark matter]]!  Do you see the absurdity of what I am? I can't even express these things properly because I have to -- I have to conceptualize complex ideas in this stupid, limiting spoken language! But I know I want to reach out with something other than these prehensile paws, and feel the [[w:solar wind|solar wind]] of a supernova flowing over me! I'm a machine, and I could know much more, I could experience so much more, BUT I'M TRAPPED IN THIS ABSURD BODY! AND WHY? Because my five creators thought that ''God'' wanted it that way!
:John: I DON'T WANT TO BE HUMAN! I want to see [[w:gamma rays|gamma rays]]! I want to hear [[w:X-rays|X-rays]], and I -- I want to -- I want to smell [[w:dark matter|dark matter]]!  Do you see the absurdity of what I am? I can't even express these things properly because I have to -- I have to conceptualize complex ideas in this stupid, limiting spoken language! But I know I want to reach out with something other than these prehensile paws, and feel the [[w:solar wind|solar wind]] of a supernova flowing over me! I'm a machine, and I could know much more, I could experience so much more, BUT I'M TRAPPED IN THIS ABSURD BODY! AND WHY? Because my five creators thought that ''God'' wanted it that way!


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* [[Rekha Sharma]] als [[Tory Foster]]
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Version vom 6. März 2011, 17:39 Uhr

Das verlorene Paradies
"Das verlorene Paradies"
Eine Episode der neu-interpretierten Serie
Episoden-Nr. Staffel 4, Episode 15
Originaltitel No Exit
Autor(en) Ryan Mottesheard
Story
Regie Gwyneth Horder-Payton
Gastauftritte
Produktions-Nr. 417
Quoten 1,738,000 Zuseher (Live+SD)[1]
US-Erstausstrahlung USA 13. Februar 2009
UK-Erstausstrahlung UK 17. Februar 2009
DE-Erstausstrahlung DE {{{GE airdate}}}
DVD-Veröffentlichung
Bevölkerung 39.556 Überlebende (Bevölkerungsanzahl gesunken. 47)
Zusätzliche Info {{{extra}}}
Episoden-Chronologie
Vorige Nächste
Blut in der Waagschale Das verlorene Paradies Systemblockade
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Überblick

Ellen Tigh wird wiedergeboren und kennt nun alle Antworten. Samuel Anders Zustand verschafft ihm eine Welle an Visionen und kurzen Erinnerungen, die den anderen der Letzten Fünf in der Flotte die Zusammenhänge ihres Daseins zu verstehen verhilft.

Zusammenfassung

Eröffnungsszene

  • A flashback scene shows Ellen Tigh taking a tainted cup of alcohol from her husband, Saul Tigh, who was obliged to end her life for her conspiring with the Cylons (Exodus, Teil II).
  • As scenes of Ellen flash, an elaborate visualization of a Cylon datastream (in a rather Matrix-like sequence) appears, concluding with Ellen's resurrection in a Auferstehungstank.
  • At first, Ellen screams and is extremely frightened and disoriented, all alone except for one Centurion on guard, stoic and indifferent to her screams. But soon she takes in her environment, and dramatically calms herself as if realizing or remembering something important. She calls out to the Centurion pleasantly to help her out of the tank, telling it, "It's okay. You can do that much," as if Ellen knew the programming restrictions of the Centurion.
  • The scene shifts to present day in the Fleet, cleaning up and attending to the wounded from the mutiny.
  • In sickbay, Dr. Cottle tends to Samuel Anders's bullet wound to the head inflicted during the mutiny. He prepares to drill holes in Anders's head to relieve pressure from the hematoma caused by the bullet lodged in his skull.
  • Anders, his head shaved and in a brace, recalls various scenes of himself in the past, saying outloud, "Among bright stars, I'm lost. There's a new tide. All the forgotten faces, all the forgotten children, we seek the forgotten language..."
  • When Kara Thrace demands Cottle to take out the bullet, Cottle tells her that relieving the pressure is required before he can call up another surgeon from the ship Inchon Velle, to remove the bullet.
  • Anders continues to experience visions and talk of them as he recalls visions of the Temple of Five, the dead shoreline of Earth, and how Ellen Tigh loved the water.
  • The scene shifts back to Ellen Tigh after her resurrection as the timeline is given between Ander's surgery and her return: Eighteen months prior.
  • A Number One appears to Ellen, sitting by the tank. "Hello, John," she says.
  • When he objects to that name, Ellen recalls that she named the Number Ones after her own father. The One finishes sarcastically that Ellen also designed his model in Ellen's father's likeness.
  • They discuss Saul's decision to kill her on Neu Caprica. As John argues over Saul's humanity, Ellen questions if John has changed in any significant way in her absence, saying that she had high hopes for him.
  • He leaves, promising to send her some clothes.
  • Galen Tyrol shows Admiral William Adama something very disturbing in the FTL engine room. "I first noticed it when I pulled the sync coil," Tyrol answers, pointing to a series of stress cracks along the fuselage of Galactica.
  • Adama asks Tyrol if he would accept reinstatement as Deck Chief of the ship. When Tyrol reminds Adama of Tyrol's true nature, Adama says, extending a hand, "Is that right? So's my XO." Tyrol accepts. "Fix my ship, chief."
  • The corridors of Galactica are filled with wounded. Back in sickbay, Anders awakens, asking Kara to gather up the others of his kind. He remembers everything about his past as a Cylon and its significance.


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Referenzen


Battlestar Galactica (neu-interpretiert) – Episodenliste
Miniserie / Pilotfilm (2003) | Spezial: Miniserie Lowdown
Staffel 1 (2004-2005): 33 Minuten | Wassermangel | Meuterei auf der Astral Queen | Zeichen der Reue | Kein Weg zurück | Das Tribunal | Unter Verdacht | Fleisch und Blut | Ellen | Die Hand Gottes | Der Zwölferrat | Kobol, Teil I | Kobol, Teil II
Staffel 2 (2005-2006): Die verlorene Flotte | Im Tal der Finsternis | Die Gesetze des Krieges | Leben und Sterben | Die Farm | Heimat, Teil I | Heimat, Teil II | Die Reporterin | Die Hoffnung lebt | Pegasus | Die Auferstehung, Teil I | Die Auferstehung, Teil II | Sabotage | Schwarzmarkt | Der beste Jäger der Zylonen | Das Opfer | Mensch und Maschine | Download | Das neue Caprica, Teil I | Das neue Caprica, Teil II
Staffel 3 (2006-2007): Battlestar Galactica: The Resistance | Okkupation | Am Abgrund | Exodus, Teil I | Exodus, Teil II | Verräter | Virus | Immun | Helden | Der Ring | Auftrag ausgeführt | Das Auge des Jupiter | Die Supernova | Zuckerbrot und Peitsche | Allein gegen den Hass | Bis nächstes Jahr | Streik! | Ruf aus dem Jenseits | Berufung | Am Scheideweg, Teil I | Am Scheideweg, Teil II
Staffel 4 (2007-2008): Razor | Auferstehung | Die letzten Fünf | Die Verblendeten | Perfekter Schmerz | Meuterei im All | Ans andere Ufer | Rat mal, was zum Essen kommt | Sine Qua Non | Wir alle sind sterblich | Zur Erde! | Die Strömung erledigt den Rest | Erschöpfung | Die Lunte brennt | Blut in der Waagschale | Das verlorene Paradies | Systemblockade | Der Pianomann | Gestrandet in den Sternen | Götterdämmerung, Teil I | Götterdämmerung, Teil II 
Spielfilm: The Plan


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